RussianLoveMatch.com Scamming?

by Anonymous
(America)

Hello,

I discovered your site late in the game, but better late than never, so I'm thankful there is a place like this site, to provide a barometer to combat all the potential scamming scenarios that exist - Thank You.

As a member of Russianlovematch.com, it took me an inordinate amount of time to admit that the site is probably not legitimate, as it is a letter pay site, and not the type you, or your readers have had good luck with.

I guess I just thought and hoped that I could perhaps find some legitimate women there, mixed in perhaps among scammers, and figure out for myself, a way around the scammers.

Do you think any of the women who use such sites might be "real"? I ask, because a few have felt authentic based on their attention to detail in answering all my questions, and my gut found one in particular ... authentic, if not for her excuses to not exchange contact information.

Unfortunately, I failed to find a way around them at that site, the only site I have ever tried. One of the tell-tale signs that scamming exists there are: after developing months long correspondences with woman there - (one at a time, typically with women who can speak English, and where mutual affection has been expressed by all parties involved - the entirety of ALL such bilingual women members who had expressed STRONG interest in me - they ALL made excuses for why they could not exchange contact information via that site's contact exchange program! Some did not even acknowledge the question, thereby avoiding the subject.

I even resorted to suggesting using that site's contact exchange program in my first response to women who had been expressing one-sided, strong interest in me for months, despite me never having replied to them until months later in my first correspondence to them, AND, not a single one of those women who said they wanted to know me, ever accepted my offer to exchange information, for even something as simple as an email address. Their pattern of not even responding to my desire to exchange contact information, or in the cases where women who had corresponded with me for months - who simply made lame, weak excuses that defied common sense - not a single one accepted my offer, so obviously they are all about money.

My questions are:

Are you familiar with this outfit, and have you studied them?

What type of people pose behind the profiles - house wives or men with good writing skills, who also live in the areas where the American home offices are, or foreign scammers living abroad?

It appears this site originates in London, and it is my guess that given lots of Russians are choosing to live in freer societies like England - over their native homeland, are involved in the vast networks of corrupt agency networks world wide?

Some of their American home offices are not far off, and I wonder what I would find if I paid them a visit, the type of riffraff I might find, and if I would recognize any of them?

I have received what appear to be threats against me disguised as women's emails because they may be rattled by evidence I have mentioned, and I'm wondering where the entities behind the scamming originates?

I have strong skills in survival training, so I'm not all that concerned, but it would be convenient, to have a sense of an answer to this question from you.

With all the scamming that goes on, how is it possible that these scammers appear to be untouchable and operate with impunity in America?

What kind of criminal gangs do you think are behind them ... minimum wage workers, so more skilled foreign labor?

As of this date, which sites do you feel are most honest?

Thank you for being out there amidst all the scumbags preying on people, for I'm tired of these scumbags thinking they can succeed by bullying people.


Bob's Answer:

First, see these other posts:

Is Russianlovematch.com for Real?

Russianlovematch.com Continued

Now to some of your specific comments/questions...

I imagine it is POSSIBLE that there are "real" women who use russianlovematch.com. It says right there on their home page that they are "Anti Scam" :)

But really, I suppose there may be sincere girls there. But frankly I don't see how that helps when the middleman remains between you and the girl.

When you're corresponding with girls who don't accept your offer to exchange contact information, even if she is real your message containing your offer goes through that black box.

So maybe your message was altered before it reached the girl such that the request for direct contact was removed. OR, maybe it wasn't, but her reply to you accepting your offer was altered on its way back to you. OR, maybe there IS NO GIRL, but rather just a paid letter-writer at the agency. OR, the girl is paid by the agency to keep the conversation going in the most profitable way possible (and direct non-paid communication doesn't fit the model).

AT LEAST ONE of these scenarios is happening in almost every pay-per-letter exchange.

I have never used or directly investigated Russian Love Match. I only know them generally based on what other readers have said and what I can see for myself on the site. That combined with what I know of other large Pay-Per-Letter operations gives me a very clear picture.

I actually do know that some of these large networks do employ Russian/Ukrainian girls in America, but I would be very surprised if any significant portion of the Pay-Per-Letter work is done outside Russia/Ukraine. I think most of it happens here. It's pretty well known that the industry is a cesspool.

I would think they would also run the dirty part of the operation here in order to provide a sort of legal insulation.

I don't really KNOW where all the scam girls come from, but some place help wanted ads in modeling groups on Facebook. I would suspect that they find a way to network with dancers, strippers, and possibly prostitutes.

I also know that some scam agencies (on-the-ground agencies in Russia/Kiev) often employ many women and are affiliates of multiple different networks. So you could find the same girl on several different sites.

But I've become very pragmatic about this. KNOWING all the specifics about how they operate, where in the chain the actual scam takes place, where they get the girls, etc. is all a useless pursuit.

It's a completely unnecessary expenditure of time, effort, and emotion. It's even more useless when the answer is so easy: If they charge by the letter (chat, video, etc.), they're almost surely dirty, and you'll almost surely no good will come of it.

The SITES that are honest are the sites that are free (fdating.com) or charge by the period of time (www.Russian-Ukrainian-Women.com). For those that charge, it works like Match.com - you pay for a period of time during which you can have unlimited direct communication with unlimited members.

On THOSE sites you still need to be on the lookout for individual scammers, but in those cases the girl is the one doing the scamming, not the site, and they're usually easier to spot.

(Please post follow-up comments/questions as comments on this post. Make a new post if it's a completely new topic)